The question is how would the State execute this kind of action? The majority of elders, except for 3 per congregation (or 3 per congregation group in multi-congregation Kingdom Halls) are not listed anywhere officially. Sure they could go after the registered officers of the corporations but they, for obvious reasons, likely don’t legally have access to the records.
Anony Mous
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Every JW Elder In State Of Pennsylvania Subpoenaed
by JW GoneBad inbreaking news!
every jehovah’s witness elder in the 67 counties of pennsylvania are being given notice by state attorney's office to turn over any & all documents relating to child sex abuse cases!
watch attached video beginning at time-stamp 101:00...pay particular attention to what is said after 103:00.this is wild!.
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Does anyone actually believe that Russia blew up its own gas pipeline?
by slimboyfat inthe claim that russia blew up its own pipeline functions, whether intentionally or not, as a test of our collective intelligence, and it’s worrisome how many fail the test.
as a former pentagon official put it, “a child could tell you that doesn’t make sense”.
they talk a lot about russian propaganda and suppression of their media, which i don’t doubt for a minute.
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Anony Mous
The more I look into this stuff, the more I am convinced it was either the Americans or the Chinese under the auspices of the Biden admin.
Why: before the blowup, a Chinese owned company (Sinopec) in an unusual move, sets in fleets of new tankers to transport oil from the Middle East to Europe and China. This started months before the invasion by Russia and well above usual demand, while people were expecting small (9% increases) in volume following COVID, they are literally doubling their demand setting in orders for 40, then 10 and even more oil and LNG tankers, (https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/unipec-buys-over-40-lng-cargoes-in-strip-tender-for-june-2021-feb-2022-sources/ ) many market watchers weren’t sure what it meant or why the company would do such an unusual thing. One article calls it “mysterious”. A few months later, Ukraine is invaded, Zelensky shuts down their connection between Europe and Russia, Nordstream blows up, suddenly the US is shipping 40% of its strategic oil reserve to China and Europe and Europe is demanding massive oil from the Saudis and Africa.
Who gets the majority of contracts, the company that recently purchased all the capacity on the market, Unipec, a subsidiary of Sinopec. Sinopec is wholly owned by the Chinese government. Meanwhile we recently found out from Republican House investigations that private equity firm, BHR Partners, founded and currently still held by the president’s son, Hunter Biden, invested $1.7 billion in Sinopec.
There is obviously no direct evidence, it just happens that Biden family investments always happen to make weird moves before major events and happen to always do very well when Joe is in some form of office.
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144,000 raise the dead and read hearts.
by enoughisenough ini sometimes catch a video of a lady calling the kh and asking questions.
this morning she was questioning something that was said in the annual meeting part 2 and i looked it up for myself.
( feb 23 ) at timeline 1:37 the claim is in the new world jesus and the 144000 will raise the dead and just shortly after that the claim is jesus and the 144,000 will read hearts.
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Anony Mous
Having talked to a few JW, they definitely pick up on it, and they accept it as if it has always been gospel. JWs that still trust solely in the Bible are either voluntarily or involuntarily leaving, the young generation is being taught that the Bible cannot be trusted without the WT intervention.
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Jerusalem will be trampled by the nations until the Gentile Times are Fulfilled. — Luke 21:24
by Fisherman injerusalem will be trampled by the nations until the gentile times are fulfilled.
— luke 21:24 .
the bible book of luke records jesus prophecy of the last day with his parousia including the verse about the gentile times.
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Anony Mous
Jerusalem had kings after Zedekiah. Currently they even have a Jewish “king”.
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144,000 raise the dead and read hearts.
by enoughisenough ini sometimes catch a video of a lady calling the kh and asking questions.
this morning she was questioning something that was said in the annual meeting part 2 and i looked it up for myself.
( feb 23 ) at timeline 1:37 the claim is in the new world jesus and the 144000 will raise the dead and just shortly after that the claim is jesus and the 144,000 will read hearts.
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Anony Mous
Yes, it seems they are saying that the 144k will be equals to Jesus once they get in heaven. Not sure if that is "new light", I swear they started this line of reasoning when I was already in decades ago, although it was a lot more subtle back then.
I guess they're just making it more and more clear that they (the 7 GB) are equals to God/Jesus.
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No more public WT & Awake?
by mikeflood inhave you guys noticed, this year 2023 no more public edition magazines...i wonder how they are gonna spin that fact.
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Anony Mous
It is often claimed, the problem with that is that it may have been true once but the contents and title vary country by country, so the question is whether it is actually the same magazine.
Remember, in some languages they had a “study edition” already since the 80s and 90s. I know moving between countries, the articles and sometimes even the study articles were not the same, often delayed by 1-3 months (so you had to look in your Dutch November article for the US September Watchtower studies)
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Gun Ownership - A question for American Witnesses (or Ex-Witnesses)
by no-zombie ini would like to ask a question regarding gun ownership in the active american witnesses community.
while rifle ownership has been put in the same category as spear guns and fishing rods, how has the issue of pistol ownership been handled in us congregations?
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Anony Mous
I know several elders that had gun collections, either from the army or direct purchase.
It depended on the congregation you were in, the ones in Appalachia were heavy gun owners and not even the JW could change that, second amendment applied to God as well, but go to New York City or Europe and you would think, like a Smurf, guns could walk out and kill people and having one in your home was tantamount to murder.
So in the end, as with everything in JW-land, it depends on your elders.
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How many terms does the bible bother to explain
by Blotty inthe bible is well known for its ellipsis* and its lack of explanatory statements of a term used.
there are exceptions in grammatical patterns, such as john exclusively using archon for ruler in his writings - which make the term self evident.sin - is defined"one" (unity) - is somewhat defined and also self evident from the context (no exceptions, every person part of that unity is listed in the context)an interesting thing to see would be how many terms are actually used and explained.
*the omission from speech or writing of a word or words that are superfluous or able to be understood from contextual clues..
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Anony Mous
You also have to understand both the translational issues as already pointed out, the other problem is that most of the original texts were written in subversion of existing governments and thus not just written within context, but also using code that were designed to not be understandable even by contemporary readers.
Most of the apocrypha, the books of John of Patmos, Paul and even older books and writers like Jeremiah, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel etc were all likely writing critical pieces chronicling the actions of their contemporary kings, leaders and governments, nowadays interpreted (falsely) as prophecy.
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Is Russia Bluffing?
by Fisherman in“supplies of offensive weapons to the kyiv regime would lead to a global catastrophe,” state duma chairman vyacheslav volodin said.
“if washington and nato supply weapons that would be used for striking peaceful cities and making attempts to seize our territory as they threaten to do, it would trigger a retaliation with more powerful weapons.”.
what is russia implying?
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Anony Mous
The tanks haven’t been delivered yet, the Biden admin is now saying they don’t even have the Abrams tanks and it may take up to a year to get the delivery arranged.
Likewise Germany’s 10-15 tanks is both not enough (just a token), apparently the Ukrainians aren’t trained on the equipment and have no clue on how to use them in battle and the delivery is likely ‘not to happen this year’.
So for all the ‘provocation’ it seems to just be a media stunt, neither Biden nor the Fourth Reich (EU) seems to be willing to actually provide any support and we know Russia has now amassed and plans to invade with a force 10x larger than what they did last year and Russia can literally throw another few waves of that size.\
Meanwhile Ukraine is so desperate, it is forcing conscription on older men, women and even men from groups like Crimean Tatars in territories they have re-occupied, there are many videos of the Ukraine military invading homes and forcing any male they find, even snatching them off the street to put into the meatgrinder. That is besides any support they are burning in the disputed territories with major war crimes.
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Is it mathematically posible for Noah and his sons to have populated the earth?
by Fisherman inbible says flood occurred approximately 4000 years ago.
that is about *200 generations of breeding to get to the population on earth now.
keep in mind that the population increase is geometric.
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Anony Mous
The Hapsburgs reproduced with a starting pool of about 8. They died out in a few hundred years and it wasn’t very pretty.
Even if you claim some extraordinary intervention in the gene pool, child mortality alone was 40% back in the day. So you needed to produce a lot of babies just to replace yourself and then the women had a 15-25% chance at death every birth which would stop further reproduction.
So statistically speaking, it would have been near impossible. For healthy gene pool and genetic drift you need a population of about 500-1000 humans.